Replacing the keys on a Little Phatty
Replacing the keys on a Little Phatty
I've been considering replacing the keybed on my Tribute Edition and wanted to know if anyone has done this before and how difficult it is to do. I'd also like to know if anyone knows where to get a keybed from. I've only been able to find full midi controllers but no keybeds.
Thanks.
Thanks.
i have a LPTE, i dont know alot about the physical dynamics of keyboards but would it be possible to somehow "stiffen up" the key actuator assemblies and add weights to the keys? I always see reference to "weighted keys". Might be easier and cheaper than replacing the entire keybed as you would probably have to retune the entire LP to the new keyboard. Then again maybe I have no clue what I'm talking about LOL
Pass the Bong :)
Pass the Bong :)
If you peek under the keys you will see that they are already weighted... there is more to the key assembly than the physical keys themselves; they are scanned by a keyscan circuit that is configured for the original keybed. It would be much less of a headache to figure out a way to add more weight to the existing keys. On a similar note, you could probably swap out the springs for stiffer keyboard springs as well. I think that the slots for the springs are a standard size, so if you could get ahold of 37 key springs from a board with stiffer action (or order stiffer springs from the supplier of your choice), then you could swap these out for a stiffer response. Stiffer springs will provide more resistance to your fingers pushing down, and heavier key weights will make the keys travel a little more slowly and bounce less when released.
Cheers,
Amos
PS) of course monkeying about with the keyboard like this is not so good for your warranty... I support your desire to customize your synth but I have to give this disclaimer anyway.
Cheers,
Amos
PS) of course monkeying about with the keyboard like this is not so good for your warranty... I support your desire to customize your synth but I have to give this disclaimer anyway.
Amos -Amos wrote:PS) of course monkeying about with the keyboard like this is not so good for your warranty... I support your desire to customize your synth but I have to give this disclaimer anyway.
At this point I think I'm going to keep it all 'original'. I don't have the time or money to monkey around with it anyway...it was more wishful thinking. On a similar keyboard note what's the timeframe on repairs? When I first got my LP I had emailed you about some crooked/uneven keys but didn't want to send it in at the time because I was having too much fun. If I wanted to send it in now about how long would it take to get it back?
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LOL.....suuuuure.... they came "crooked" out of the box "a long time ago" ......moog will surely trust that after a post like this, you certainly didn't take apart the key assembly to poke around....When I first got my LP I had emailed you about some crooked/uneven keys
hehe, just messing with ya, i'm sure it did come like that
What about actually using a denser material for the actual keys themselves to add the weight during production? The stock keys are fairly cheap & thin. I really dig quality & the faces of the existing keys seem torqued or twisted slightly such that the tops of them across the keyboard is not entirely flat. Personally, I'd pay a few more sawbucks for a higher quality layout as my only real beef with the LP is the cheap keys.Amos wrote:It would be much less of a headache to figure out a way to add more weight to the existing keys.
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Yeah it did...but it is kind of a funny place to post my question now that I think about it.electrical_engineer_gEEk wrote:LOL.....suuuuure.... they came "crooked" out of the box "a long time ago" ......moog will surely trust that after a post like this, you certainly didn't take apart the key assembly to poke around....When I first got my LP I had emailed you about some crooked/uneven keys
hehe, just messing with ya, i'm sure it did come like that
I emailed Amos right after I opened the box but couldn't part with my new toy at the time. After staring at them for a few months the unevenness of the keys is starting to bug me (it's the OCD in me) though I still can't see myself parting with my new toy. They work fine they're just not straight.
Exactly. Some of my keys also have more space between them than others. I have a back issue of Keyboard where they reviewed the LP Tribute and their review unit had the same issues. Keys aside I love my LP...it gets the most use out of all my gear. I barely touch my Voyager anymore.DeFrag wrote:I really dig quality & the faces of the existing keys seem torqued or twisted slightly such that the tops of them across the keyboard is not entirely flat
It's just a matter of personal preference. I prefer a heavier action. I find the LP to be very light and springy. I like the Fatar weighted keyboard used in the Virus KB. I like the feel of my CME UF6.doctorno wrote:Hmm, I do not know what you guys are used to, but I think the LP has a very good, high quality keyboard compared to most other synths.
You're not the only one. The keys on my LP have always been crooked as well - its most noticeable directly from the front. None of my other synths have ever had this problem. This seems particular to this keybed they chose for the LP.jon_kull wrote:After staring at them for a few months the unevenness of the keys is starting to bug me (it's the OCD in me) though I still can't see myself parting with my new toy. They work fine they're just not straight.
I don't even bother mentioning it any more as I always get shouted down as a "Moog basher" or a "hater" - nothing could be farther from the truth. I love my LP with a passion and have recommended it to others as well as creating a dedicated website for it at http://www.carbon111.com/moog_lp.html
I just wish the keys were straight instead of "snaggletoothed"
Best Regards, James
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