is this true?

Lengai · Post by **Lengai** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:01 pm

sundaeclubber,

That thought hit me right after submitted the post. So I guess the question would need to be changed to his first semi modular synth?

mee3d · Post by **mee3d** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 4:35 pm

MC

I thought I read that while Bob was away at a trade show Bill Hemsath built, using modular moog parts that were in a "repair" bin the original "minmoog" model A.

On Bobs return he was not sure about the "all in one - fixed path" but ordered up the guys to build 10 prototype units (at this stage Bob interjected with his wisdom about the case and oscilators, it was renamed the minimoog and was at model C) . . off he went somewhere and on his return the guys had made 50 models and the unit was out for sale.

Originally Bob did not think a small, portable, fixed signal path, limited synth would sell . . .

I think that's how it goes?

Mal

MC · Post by MC » Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:05 pm

You're right about the model A, which was built from circuit boards used in the modular systems, albiet the circuit boards are Bob's designs. Yes Bob was reluctant then. Two Model Bs also had modular boards inside. By then Bob agreed that there was potential for it.

Four model C prototypes were built, using the new aforementioned designs and vectorboard for circuits. This was the model where the classic minimoog case first appeared. They used this to get feedback from musicians before going into production.

Bob gave orders to build ten model Ds for prototype purposes but not to put it into production. Then he left for some seminar. By then the company was in bad business shape, sales of modular systems dropped to near nothing, and the team were rightly worried they would be out of a job if the minimoog did not go into production. So in Bob's absence, the engineers laid out the final PC boards and proceeded to start minimoog production. Bob was not pleased when he returned, but had to submit to production of minimoogs..

The sole model A, one model B (the 2nd was lost in a fire), and three model Cs are accounted for. They are all at the Audities collection in Calgary Alberta Canada. I helped Dave Kean of Audities set up all the prototypes at winter NAMM2000, where they were powered up, making noise, and on display together for the first time. Minimoog model D serial numero uno #1001 was also on display. I tried all of them and my favorite was the model B, sounds really big and fat.

Kevin Lightner · Post by **Kevin Lightner** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:29 am

MC,

Any comment on the Mini shown on this webpage?
This collection is apparently in Europe.

http://www.eboardmuseum.com/EBOARDMUSEUM-DEUTSCH-04.htm

http://www.eboardmuseum.com/EBOARDMUSEUM-DEUTSCH-04.htm

mee3d · Post by **mee3d** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:36 am

I know Gert Prix who runs the ebaordmuseum in Austria . . he is a friend of the family.

He has 4 minimoogs, one is serial number 1001 . . opening her up all the boards are also serial 1001 so it's a little confusing if there are 2 minimoog model D's with serial number 1001 !!!!

Here are some photos i took the last time I was at his museum (the original Adidas factory), he has a collection of over 650 synths and although they are not all wired into amps, everyone of them is in working condition and you can plug them in and play (and sample) . . well worth a visit if you are ever in southern Austria.

(He has 6 knived Emerson Hammonds and vertually all of the Tangerine Dream stageset circa 1976, which was sold to him by Klause Schulze).

Drew · Post by **Drew** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 7:44 am

Wowsa!!!

mee3d wrote:I know Gert Prix who runs the ebaordmuseum in Austria . . he is a friend of the family.

He has 4 minimoogs, one is serial number 1001 . . opening her up all the boards are also serial 1001 so it's a little confusing if there are 2 minimoog model D's with serial number 1001 !!!!

Here are some photos i took the last time I was at his museum (the original Adidas factory), he has a collection of over 650 synths and although they are not all wired into amps, everyone of them is in working condition and you can plug them in and play (and sample) . . well worth a visit if you are ever in southern Austria.

(He has 6 knived Emerson Hammonds and vertually all of the Tangerine Dream stageset circa 1976, which was sold to him by Klause Schulze).

MC · Post by MC » Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:48 am

Nice collections

I remember reading of the "other" Minimoog #1001 in keyboard mag.

I can vouch for the authenticity of Audities' #1001 as it was ALL original and had ALL the traits of a Trumansburg model D, even to the authentic serial label (matches my #1053 label in font/style/color) and the original discrete VCO board. Even the keyboard circuit had the SCALE trimpot which doesn't even appear on first generation RAM schematics.

The "other" #1001 is definitely an early Trumansburg mini, only visible difference is silver badge (Roger Luther's #1009 has a silver badge) and the original red momentary decay/glide switches have been replaced. Would like to see the serial label and check it out under the hood.

The thought plickens

mee3d · Post by **mee3d** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 9:33 am

Gerts mini doesn't have a serial number on the casework . . he told me that he was told it was a "pre-production" model.

It was only after he opened her up that he found a serial number on one of the boards and also I believe in pen on the inside of the ali case (?).

Could this unit be pre serial . . and am I wrong in believing that minimoog serial numbers started at 1017?

I have seen and played this minimoog . .

Mal

Lengai · Post by **Lengai** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 1:34 pm

mee3d,

So, that's what heaven looks like

Boeing 737-400 · Post by **Boeing 737-400** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:48 pm

I'd love to try some of those synths out!

Kevin Lightner · Post by **Kevin Lightner** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:59 pm

When I worked at Roland, I once had an opportunity to ask the president (Mr. K) how I encountered 2 serial #1 units once during repairs.
He replied that each country's production had their own serial number runs and that there were "many serial number ones."

I was startled to see this one in Europe also.
I had the other 1001 unit at my place for one day or so.
(MC: Dave K brought it over.)
Now it's Canada with the rest of the collection.

Personally, if I had a choice of any possible Mini, I'd take the very latest D serial number I could find, install an old style osc board with various small mods and have the best of both worlds.
I'm not crazy about the later temp stabilized oscs and extremely old Moogs can have more problems and less engineering updates than I'd like.

Beluhan · Post by **Beluhan** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:31 am

Hello mee3d,

how did this very old mini sound in comparison to younger ones?
That seem to me very interesting.

Thanks

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:50 pm

mee3d wrote:I know Gert Prix who runs the ebaordmuseum in Austria . . he is a friend of the family.

He has 4 minimoogs, one is serial number 1001 . . opening her up all the boards are also serial 1001 so it's a little confusing if there are 2 minimoog model D's with serial number 1001 !!!!

Here are some photos i took the last time I was at his museum (the original Adidas factory), he has a collection of over 650 synths and although they are not all wired into amps, everyone of them is in working condition and you can plug them in and play (and sample) . . well worth a visit if you are ever in southern Austria.

(He has 6 knived Emerson Hammonds and vertually all of the Tangerine Dream stageset circa 1976, which was sold to him by Klause Schulze).

Hey Mal,

Gert Prix' keyboard supply looks a little like a lunatic assylum - even for a synth buff like me. Did he acquire all those boards during their production runs or after? He he he!

I mean, that's too many even for a museum!!

OysterRock · Post by **OysterRock** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:12 pm

Everybody! Quit quoting the pics!!!

ebg31 · Post by **ebg31** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:16 pm

Whoa Oyster,

It's not as bad as all that, is it?

After all, I like looking at those pix three times in a row. Sort of like a real guilty pleasure.